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Steve Jobs MIT Class (1992) [video] (youtube.com)
52 points by janvdberg on April 9, 2018 | hide | past | favorite | 18 comments


The full video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk-9Fd2mEnI The 2 minute excerpts are nice, but the 73 minute talk is better.


Whatever your judgment of Jobs, I think he was a rare dude: minimalist, hippie, articulate, charismatic, business-savvy, technical, and artistic. Many people have some of these traits, but I can't think of anyone else with all of them.


Does having all of them express some sort of ideal? What is the significance of having all of them?


I think by the context... uniqueness?


Two things:

1) Jobs' ability to talk about strategic trends in the industry in such a clear way is truly rare.

2) Amusing how everyone thought OOP would enable a whole paradigm shift. Has that actually panned out?


Do you have a little NeXT device in your pocket called an iPhone?


I think the point is that today OOP is just an architectural choice. The success of the iPhone is no more evidence of OOP being a paradigm shift than other platforms that also implement it (Windows, Android, Rails, etc)


Yes, for one thing it was supposed to enable all sorts of clever composable behaviors; a big change in how computers presented themselves to end users. Apple had OpenDoc[1], Microsoft had OLE. You'd be able to just work on some piece of content, with the UI reflecting the capabilities of whatever "objects" you had installed. OLE actually worked (for certain values of 'worked'), not sure OpenDoc ever got off the ground.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc


Cyberdog, a suite of internet utilities, is an example of an OpenDoc based product that did make it into the hands of end users.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberdog


Ah, I do remember this. It was pretty short lived. Good find.


I'm only referring to Object-Oriented programming. Not sure what the iPhone has to do with that. Unless you are talking about UIKit, the application framework.


Correct. The use of frameworks like UIKit would be an example of Object-Oriented programming.

http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/CACM-frameworks.html

Likewise, the frameworks that are part of Windows and Android, etc.


I think the person above you gets what OOP is and quite frankly, you’re being a condescending prick.


>Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I assume people ask questions because they want information and see nothing condescending about answering those questions.


This lecture got uploaded last week, and I had not seen it before. I think it gives a pretty nice insight into the mind of Jobs (who was doing NeXT at the time), about how he thinks about deep work/failure/learning/"scar tissue" and it goes to show that what he later set out to do with Apple was the result of a deliberate effort/process of approaching things.


Agreed. I have a lot of old Apple footage when I used to run an Apple video site back in the day. I have never seen this either. Great to watch.



Pretty awesome talk. Many of his business insights are applicable to 2018.




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