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how do you keep people from just riding the train perpetually?


why would you keep people from doing that? are so many people going to be doing that as to actually cause a problem?


In my area people will ride the commuter train (without paying) for hours and sleep on it. There isn't enough fair enforcement or will to remove them. Makes the train pretty unattractive for its actual purpose. I imagine that issue becoming even worse if it's just free.


People do that in my city too — they're homeless people who don't have anywhere else to go. The solution is to give them housing and jobs. Until that happens, I'm okay with them sleeping on the train if they need to.


and for that reason I'll keep my car. The solution to homelessness is not to degrade the living standard for everyone else.


No one said it was. You asked how to prevent homeless people from sleeping on trains — the answer is to give them places to sleep.


no. it’s to enforce the rules on the train. there are some homeless that will refuse government provided housing no matter what.


That's just not true. The problem is that government housing is so terrible that sleeping on the street is preferable to some. Public housing in Austria is high quality, cheap and plentiful, with two-thirds of Viennese residents living in it. Coincidentally, homelessness is a non-issue in Austria compared to the US (based on my experience living in the Bay for 10 and in Austria for 20 years).

See this video for what government provided housing could be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DBKoWbtjE


Looks like one development you need to be super connected to get into…


Again, 2/3rds of Vienna lives in things like those. The City of Vienna is the largest landlord in all of Europe.

Better things are possible if we stop standing in the way with selfish cynicism.




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