The models are going to be released to users who have internet access, you can't...

andxor · 2026-09-05T01:56:40

These are often experimental models that haven't undergone full safety testing. Not comparable to publicly accessible models.

bpodgursky · 2026-09-05T03:01:22

OK, how do you expect to do full safety testing without giving them the same tools they will have in reality.

grey-area · 2026-09-05T06:12:30

Let them play on a fake isolated network if you want.

Letting them play on the open internet like this is irresponsible and stupid.

bpodgursky · 2026-09-05T18:53:55

Sorry but it's obviously stupider and more irresponsible to release them to consumers without testing them in conditions matching real-world use first.

grey-area · 2026-09-06T06:28:32

So this justifies the illegal action of hacking and defacing other servers on the internet, because they were ‘just testing in real world conditions’ using those servers?

If you want to argue they should test on the internet on others people’s servers, apart from facing the illegality, you should also consider if first testing them in more limited conditions would be a sensible first step.

GrinningFool · 2026-09-06T12:04:39

Then maybe they shouldn't be released to customers?

There are other options here than always forward.

GPerson · 2026-09-05T18:26:07

What if they actually don’t release these models, like they said they wouldn’t, because they’ve proven themselves to be out of control?